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"I first heard of the Flag in probably '81. A friend's older brothers had the TV Party 7" and Jealous Again 12". Then My War came out. Of course I thought side 2 sucked. Still do, but I can appreciate it a bit more now. The first Flag album I personally owned was Slip It In.

"First show I saw them at was at the Starry Night in Portland, OR August 85, the same one recorded for Who's Got the 10 1/2? It was my first 'punk' concert and one of the best concerts I've ever seen. Tom Troccoli's Dog played first. Greg played with them. SWA played next. I met Dukowski, who was very cool. Merrill, however, was a prick. The Duke came on stage with a huge black handprint on his face. It started to sweat off almost right away.

"What I remember most about that show are the songs that didn't make the album (Wound Up, Damaged, etc.) and that there was an enormous skinhead who was ruling the pit and was always getting my friends and me in headlocks. Didn't hurt us or anything, but every now and then your head went down and he would hold your head against his chest for a couple of seconds before we could get away. Never could figure it out.

"Saw the Flag again the next May in Portland at the Pine Street Theatre. Gone and Painted Willie opened. Kira was out by then [replaced by C'el] and the band was not into playing at all. A funny story about that show: A friend of mine who had a cool two chamber bong saw Greg walking around before the show and asked him if he wanted to get high. Greg said he didn't smoke pot too often, but he did that day. According to my friend, Greg had about 4 pulls off that bong and then stumbled into the venue mumbling something about not being able to feel his hands. Maybe that's why they sucked that night.

"Anyway, Black Flag is one of my favorite bands. The SST bands of the time (Hüsker Dü, SWA, Meat Puppets, Minutemen, DC3, etc) all have a special place in my heart."

Layne B.
January 1998


"I first heard Black Flag when I was 14 back in '86. I guess I was relatively lucky: none of the kids at the all-male private high school gave a shit that I was into punk, so I was left on my own to revel in my own secret purchases. I already had some Sex Pistols and Dead Kennedys records which I totally worshipped, but somehow Black Flag really struck a chord with me. Along with the Minutemen, Flipper, and the Big Boys, I think their records still hold up as the best of the era. Damaged goes beyond punk rock. It's truly a darker sound. If I only had a handful of records to take to me to a desert isle, it'd surely be one of them.

"10 years later, and it seems the world is just catching up. I remember watching the Grammys 2 years ago when none other than Paul Reiser of 'Mad About You' introduced the Rollins Band. He hailed 'hardcore legends, Black Flag, for changing the face of music in Los Angeles ten years ago' - to massive applause from the industry-douchebag audience. What??!! The music biz loves the Flag now? Where were you all 10-15 years ago when the band was doing the hard slog?

"Nowadays I work for an independent record co. in Australia that distributes SST. The guys/gals at work are basically into either techno, death metal or lame indie-pop. When I stick on Damaged I can assure you, it scares the shit outta them. Glad to see they're still capable of upsetting people.

"Cheers to Chuck, Greg and all the crew for not only Black Flag, but also all those other early SST gems: Minutemen, Meat Puppets, Saccharine Trust, etc. Maybe in another 20 years it'll be a full-length feature film or something..."

Dave L.
January 1998


"I saw what I thought was Flag's last show at the Budweiser factory in Van Nuys, CA. A skinhead that was at the gig was yelling at Henry:"

"First four years, Henry, first four years!"

"Henry replied:"

"Fuck you, moron. I'm gonna do your girlfriend after the show."

"The skinhead broke down in tears. It was the most hilarious thing I've seen at a Flag show. I was all up in the scene from 82-87. I've seen Black Flag about 20 times and have got more than a few good stories."

Michael S.
January 1998


"The first time I saw them I had never even heard of them. I was in high school and a big Van Halen fan, working part time as an intern (read: free labor) for a local live sound company in Trenton, NJ. We had just done a gig for a band called the Flamin' Caucasians at some bar. I, being the young turk and excited about drinking in a bar at 17, got smashed with the band. Afterward, we returned to the office around 5am and I crashed on the office couch in preparation for my first experience with a punk rock gig an idea I did not relish.

"The Black Flag show was scheduled for noon and I was predictably in pain from the previous evening's festivities. As we set up the PA, the band rolls in and proceeds to set up their HUGE amplifiers. I am amazed that they are as awake as I am not. This is not what I had hoped for. Finally, we get the PA together and the guy I'm working, Paul, with throws in a cassette of some noise and cranks it WAY up. This is called 'testing the PA.' Henry then walks over in a very indignant fasion and says,

"Man, turn that shit off! Put this in."

"He handed Paul theJimi Hendrix Experience, Axis Bold As Love and I thanked him.

"I know this isn't much of a story (it doesn't really compete with the time some girl yanked Henry's pants down in the middle of a show and he just kept right on going with his dick swinging in the wind) but, I've been a fan ever since. They were nothing short of amazing and to this day, I've never seen another band work as hard as they did."

Anonymous
April 1998


"I saw the mighty Black Flag for the first time in 1981 at a run down biker bar in Daytona Beach called the 20 Grand Club. Having grown on the early punk of the Saints, Clash, Thunders, Hot Rods, etc., it had been a few years since something had come out that really kicked me in the ass. I had barely heard a few of the east coast bands (Double 00, Misfits, Bad Brains) and the reputation of this band Black Flag from L.A. was enough to drag me there.

"Believe me, folks, this was one of the very first shows by a 'punk' band in the central Florida area and no one was prepared for the sonic mayhem that happend that night. Gainesville, FL band Roach Motel opened (and ruled as usual), then Saccharine Trust. Flag went on last.

"That night changed my life forever. If anyone would like a copy of the flyer for that show, or would be interested in trading flyers from other punk shows (I have hundreds), e-mail me below. Also, check out the Street Walkin' Cheetahs on Alive Records! If you dig the MC5, Saints, Iggy, Johnny Thunders, etc., you will not be dissapointed."

Jeff C.
April 1998


"I was the singer for the band Dr. Know. We opened for Black Flag a number of times between 1980 and 1982. Roadies Merril [Ward] and Mugger were a crack up. Mugger punched me once at the Whiskey. Why? It was punk, I guess.

"My favorite show was at the Cuckoo's Nest in Costa Mesa with Circle One and Wasted Youth. It was a daytime show and oddly the scariest pit I'd ever seen. Of course, I was in the middle of it.

" Having seen every lineup from 78 or 79 on, I thought Chavo [Pederast, aka Ron Reyes] and Keith [Morris] were the best singers. They were fucking amazing. Although Henry gets most of the credit [as singer] for the band, he was the last, not the only singer. Not many kids know or care.

"Chuck and Dez are good friends of mine to this day. I saw Dez last week at a Gears gig. He's insane. A great guy. I wish the old Starwood days were still happening. Back then, when I was 16 or so, it was scary to drive from Oxnard and go see gigs. People were nuts back then. I miss Black Flag, but I still blast Nervous Breakdown when I need a fix of what punk used to feel like... when it was real and it was raw and you knew everybody in the scene."

Brandon Cruz
April 1998


"I remember when I was a 15 year old punk rocker and going to Black Flag shows, and listening to them and thinking 'Wow, Greg Ginn is a fucking amazing guitarist!' Of course I didn't start playing guitar until later, so I was clueless about the concepts of tone, equipment, theory etc. To me Ginn's playing was just explosive and intense and it moved me as it moved my fellow punk comrades. That just goes to show you that to the lay person a musician with charisma playing from the heart, more often than not, makes a greater impact than some cat who is fusses more about his tone than about what he is actually playing and its impact on the audience.

"By the time I started playing guitar I was into British mod, the Yardbirds, the Who, etc. When I would hear Greg Ginn solos at that point I would laugh cause they were so silly and out of control. There is a lot to be said for that guitar 'antihero' attitude though, and I still rock out to Slip it in and Six Pack every once in a while."

Bogdan J.
May 1998


"In 1983 the San Diego punk scene had gotten a reputation as being senselessly violent, edgy, and unpredictable. The only venues at the time were Fairmount Hall and the Lyons Club, both in North Park and alternately off limits as punk venues. There was the Kings Road and Adams Avenue, maybe Wabash Hall and occasionally the Boys Club, but for the most part there weren't a lot of halls because we tore them all down and ran out of legitimate people to front the shows.

"At any rate, I remember The summer of 81 or 82 as a big summer for shows with the scene in San Diego just becoming a thing. The Skeleton Club and the Fonos were gone, but the residual bad boys were still floating around as SDSH. A couple of weeks prior, Arturo and Chui from SDSH had dragged some of TSOL off of the stage at the Fairmount and worked them over for some imagined or fabricated slight. There were rumors of carloads of LA and OC punks coming down to even things up because of that. It never happened.

"What did happen was that Black Flag came down and played the Fairmount, and I think maybe it was Terry Marine that tried to pull that same stunt by yanking Henry off of the stage, only Henry just kind of dove down and took him right up on it. I think Terry hung in there for a while, but then kind of lost his taste for it. Art and Chui were right there, but somehow Henry ended up looking pretty good. A lot of guys back then ended up looking pretty bad, but Henry Rollins is one of the few guys that just took that really violent thing we had going and threw it right back in everyones faces.

"I think the guys that eventually evolved away from that scene always did hold Henry in high esteem for that kind of stuff in the early days. The only other guy I saw do that back then was Mike Ness, but he started as much of it as the rest of them (not that it was wrong or anything at that time and place - it was just what was going on). Henry was definitely the real thing... he was as crazy and unpredictable as the whole scene going on around him."

Toby
May 1998


"I first saw Black Flag in the winter of '84. A friend and I drove an hour and a half to see the mighty Flag at the all ages show at the Bowery in Oklahoma City. It was cold as Hell AND a school night. At this time in a small town in Oklahoma the Flag was the ultimate band of revolt and they were fucking legends to us. We get to the show and there were only about 10 to 15 kids there to see them! That was mind boggling.

"The t-shirt guy there had some kind of glass case that had a couple of Rollins' books inside. I read a couple of the pages and thought they were pretty wild. I didn't read anymore until the In My Head tour. We did see the Loose Nut tour though. That crowd was thin too. It wasn't until 1986 that the Oklahoma crowds got really big.

"I never really wanted to meet Rollins in person because I liked knowing him through his writing and music. However, after being involved with the underground literary scene for several years I met a Vietnam Vet poet named Bill Shields. He and I became good friends over the years exchanging letters, poetry etc. Around '91 I sent Henry some of Bill's poetry and it wiped Henry's ass out as I knew it would. 2.13.61 recently published Bill Shields 4th book.

"I finally did meet Henry in Kalamazoo, MI when he was opening for Jane's Addiction. A friend backstage told him I was in the crowd and he came out to meet me and tell me when the Shield's title was coming out. As we were talking, Jane's launched into their set. We could barely hear each other, so I waved him off. As I was walking away a crowd of kids started mobbing him for autographs. I was never more thankful for my total anonymity.

"Rollins Band and Rollins no longer sybolize revolt to me. They are not even close to what the Flag was. The other SST bands were great, too. They were the only groups like that touring to places like Oklahoma. They are truly legendary."

Blacky Hix
May 1998


"Although I saw Black Flag many times, the most memorable time was in 1983 after the release of My War. Black Flag was playing the Pop Shop in Cleveland and I was pyched. I didn't like My War that much (and it's still not my favorite) but I loved Damaged, Jealous Again, and the early singles.

"Anyway, I got to the Pop Shop and made my way to the front past an army of skankers. After joining the pit for a while, I finally got to the front of the stage after a 10 minute song. I yelled to Henry, who was now 3 feet away:"

"Play Rise Above!"

"He replied with a kick in the stomach and:"

"I said we aren't playing the old stuff, asshole!"

Charles G.
May 1998


"I saw Black Flag play in Detroit on their last tour. I remember my friend Marty and I pushed our way to the front, and we were so close to Henry that his sweat was flying at us. IN fact I remember my eyes were stinging from it. I was pretty hammered so it didnt matter. It was a truly awesome show. I kept hoping to hear Six Pack but Henry wasnt in the mood to play that one.

"At any rate, the thing that sticks out in my mind is this: At one point a drumstick went flying and went right by me, falling down to the ground. Like a MORON I dove down for it! I wasnt going to let THAT moment pass, no sir! Well luckily for me, the guy to my right grabbed me by the waist and tried to pull me up... I continued to fight my way down though and retrieved the drumstick! As I was a fairly skinny weak boy, it was a miracle I survived. The guy who pulled me up started yelling at me but when I waved the drumstick triumphantly in his face, he smiled and shut up!

"I had that stick as my pride and joy for years, it was so beat up that when I told people it had Henry Rollins' teeth marks on it, they believed it. Unfortunately it got stolen out of my dorm room at Western Michigan University Michigan."

J K
May 1998


"hmmm. so many memories. I booked them back in the early days 1980 at a club called Shellies Too in Santa Cruz. Our shows were all age shows and a lot of really young kids saw them. I've got some of the earliest flyers from those days in 1980 when they played with another great local band called the Prisoners.

"The band was truly the most radical and intense group any one of us had ever seen. A lot of bands were formed as a result of seeing Black Flag."

Anonymous
May 1998


"I went to See Black Flag back at the Party Centre in Toronto back in 1984-85 (don't have a great recollection of those years). The Meat Puppets opened and the crowd of about 1000 mostly skins went nuts when Henry got on stage.

"I got pretty wasted and slamed danced into the wrong punk who I proceeded to get into a fist fight with for no particular reason. The music in the background was a great soundtrack to the violence on the floor.

"Anyway the New Music taped parts of the show and it was aired about a month later with part of my fight sequence in it!"

Angus M.
July 1998


"I am a big fan of the early years of Black Flag, back before Henry joined the line up.

"I was fourteen, depressed and lonely when Jealous Again found its way onto my turntable. Though I was initially taken aback by the agressive nature of the music (I was used to Queen, Alice Cooper, and Led Zeppelin) I soon found myself relating to the message.

"Before long, Jealous Again would be the lullaby music that I would sleep to. I look back and laugh that I was so uptight and frustrated that I actually found sleep in Greg Ginn's onslaught of guitar chaos!

"Anyhow. I am sick of all the press and attention the Brits and the New Yorkers get about being punk rock pioneers. Sure they got the big record deals and had a vast art movement to back them up, but the LA scene had a sense of sincere urgency and desperation that makes it unique. All the egg whited mohawks in the world could not compare to a kid in shorts and a t-shirt screaming so hard he burst blood vessels in the eyes. What bothers me most is hearing local Southern California kids talk smack on the US scene. Its so cool to go the fashion route and be down for the English scene because they had more posters or something. Anyway, what I am trying to get to is that the LA scene needs to be revered and recognized for the egalitarian utopia it was."

Howie B.
July 1998


"There we were at 5612 Sunset Blvd in line to see Black Flag, Samhain, Gone, and the Necros. There were about 75 kids in line and about 75 cop cars buzzing around. All of a sudden, Tony Alva's fat ass comes skating by and everyone's like 'oooh aaaahh' like he's defying the cops with his street stick.

"That was the first time I saw Gone play and they were never better then when I saw them live. Ginn was the man. Weiss and Cain ripped.

"Another funny thing: I had the Necros shirt on with a corpse on the front. A little black kid came up to me and asked me if that was a dead black man. Weird."

Michael S.
July 1998


"I saw Black Flag more times than I can remember, almost always at the Metro in Chicago. The thing that has always stuck with me was the fact that Hank could never seem to keep those black jogging shorts to stay on. By the end of almost every show they were around his knees."

Zen
July 1998


"I saw the Slip It In tour twice - Milwaukee and Madison, WI. I could get laid by these punker chicks just for wearing my Slip It In t-shirt in college. Played guitar in a high school band back in 1983 where we covered the Jealous Again tunes. The rock dudes all said we sucked.

"In college I plagerized Rattus Norvegicus [off of Family Man] for an English paper and got an A on it. The prof used it as an example for years following.

"I was in L.A. a year ago and went to the Whiskey - talked to some workers there who had no idea who Darby Crash was and I felt sorry for them."

Russ L.
August 1998


"I saw Black Flag in '85 and'85 both at the Showplace in Dover, NJ. I saw a few shows there, but Black flag was the only band powerful enough to blow the power out!!!

"The next day we met them at a Roy Rogers eating lunch. They were all pretty cool guys... They're still to this day one of my favorite bands."

James N.
August 1998


"I first saw Black Flag play at the Brewery in Raleigh, NC. I was in total awe. I had been into a lot of Anti-Nowhere League, Exploited, Fear, etc... but Flag was truly one of the greatest shows I have ever seen.

"I later saw them play again with a band that at that time was little known. They got famous a few years later... Corrosion of Conformity. All in all, those days were the best."

Bill
September 1998


"During the 80's I lived in a house with a band and we always had traveling punk bands stay or at least party there.

"One time Henry came to do his reading thing ("please don't call it poetry") and he came to our place. We had lots of black coffee prepared and the Stooges on the stereo. Henry seems to be having a good time and we're totally diggin' it we he spys a Van Halen poster in my room. This poster was hung with sarcastic intent but it didn't seem to matter. Henry just looked at it up close and said:

"David Lee Roth saw us. He thought we were cool."

"Black Flag is one of the greatest bands ever as far as I'm concerned. I still use Damaged as a weapon against the neighbors."

Moe
September 1998


Two Eighth Grade Black Flag stories:

The First

"My parents went out to CA to visit my aunt. They asked if I wanted anything while they were out there. I told them I wanted the new Damaged lp and a Black Flag T-shirt. They said they would try their best. My cousins ended up getting me the lp. My mom carefully removed the ANTI PARENT STICKER [used to cover the MCA logo on the original pressing] that was on the lp; otherwise, my dad would have never let me have it!).

"Mom and Dad went to the mall and had an iron-on letter Black Flag shirt made for me. Yellow letters on a green shirt. You can imagine the look I had on my face. I was bummed. It even had the bars. I never did wear that shirt. 16 years have gone by and do I wish I had that shirt now."

The Second

"'I had just received some mail from SST. They had sent me a poster, stickers, flyers, and tour dates. I was stoked. I brought the stuff to school to show my friend Rob who was in my Spanish class. Henry had inserted an extra MY RULES (the finger) sticker in the package so I decided to give it to my friend Rob. Spanish class had just started and I was in the middle of showing Rob the package. Ms. Hendrick, the teacher told me to put away the stuff or she would take it away. I told her very casually:

"You take away my stuff and I'll kill you"

"My answer shocked her. She pretend to ignore me. As she walked back to the front of the class, I flipped her off. She turned around while I had my finger in the air (I was slow and stupid). She violently yelled for me to get out of her room. I was sent to the office. She came down to the office after class and was crying. She told me that she never wanted to see me again. She asked my advisor to remove me from her class. They did. I was suspended for 3 days. I told her on several occasions I was sorry. She never did accept my apology.

"I was in 10th grade when she transferred to my high school. I was walking down the hall with my notebook that had the same MY RULES sticker on it. It was awkward as we passed each other. She looked at me with the same disgust from two years ago. We didn't say anything, but I had a feeling that she saw that sticker on my notebook."

Mr. Bob
September 1998


"First time I saw them was in St. Louis at Mississippi Nights in July, 1984. The show was crazy, the place was so packed you honestly could not move.

"For some reason jocks would come to the bigger punk shows and act like... well, like jocks. I shoved one of the jocks who was busy throwing punches into a bouncer, then told the bouncer what he was doing. He got tossed. See if you know how to talk to bouncers they don't all act like assholes.

"A friend of mine was stage diving during the set and I was catching her. Well, one time she didn't get my attention and went down to the floor and hit her head. Bill Stevenson came outside after the show and gave her some of those big ass drum sticks and asked her if she was all right.

"I did speak to Henry briefly that night about him getting free skateboards and stuff for the ads he did for Independent.

"This was also the show where one of the sort of fringe crowd trendy chicks got on stage and gave Henry a hand job. It was after this show that this crazy party took place at this rich kids house. The place was wrecked, most of the damge was done by my friends. I missed it though and went skating with some guys that came down from Kansas City.


"They came back in October. I went to see them in Columbia, MO with some of my friends. I had twisted my knee and was on crutches for this gig.

"During the set, a friend of mine spit on Henry. He was not happy about that and demanded to know who did it. A different friend yelled up that he was the one that did it. Henry told him to meet him outside after the show and he would kick his ass. It's worth mentioning that my friends were all skinheads and big ones at that. This particular guy was about 6'5". So we all waited outback and Henry never showed. So we all got back into my buddys way too small Chevette and headed back to St. Louis.


"Two weeks later Flag returned to St. Louis. This time they played an under 21 club called Reflections that only put on shows for a few months. The Vandals, 45 Grave, TSOL, Decry, and Samhain played there.

"Anyway, I was still on crutches with the bad knee so I couldn't be in the pit. Instead, I stood in front at the end of the stage. I had a clear line view of Henry and the crowd.

"During a song, this guy we called 'I'm Bob' (because of the tattoo on his forearm) kept poking Henry in the chest. After the song Henry popped him in the nose not just breaking it but exploding it. This incident is mentioned in a couple of Henry's books.

"This was about the time I started to fall for Kira in that stalker way I have. This was before she was doing the bass slut look. She seemed bummed out after the show. Sort of tour weary I guess. I felt sort of sorry for her.

"After the show, we all went to Denny's where (of course) the Flag went. I remember being at a table with [Dukowski's band] Swa, Tom Troccoli and I think Greg. Henry was off by himself somewhere. That was a blast at Denny's. Almost as fun as the show.


"Flag came back to St. Louis in 1985. I was on my way into the local record store to by tickets when I was stopped by the cops. They were 'cleaning up' the street of punks that night and I was arrested for 'peace disturbance and failure to comply.' My court date ended up being the night of the show. Very Alanis, huh?

"Anyway, I went to court and made it to the show as Swa were ending. This was the show in the roller rink that a previous fan wrote about. It was packed and sounded like hell. Low ceiling and concrete. Yeah, that makes for good sound. The stage was constructed of plywood and oil drums. A real union job. I made my way to the front and planted myself in front of Kira. A friend from Boston told me about her new look. I was into it. Some sort of fight broke out in the pit. Some skinhead thing with people I didn't know.

"Flag were playing in Columbia and Kansas City a few days later. My friend from Boston was in town to visit her parents so we went to those shows. Columbia is a sad little college town two hours away between St. Louis and Kansas City. We ended up getting there way too early. So we hang out in back on her car watching the bottlerocket fight with Flag and the road crew. Henry came out while doing sound check to do commentary on the battle. It was definitely tour release time. It was fun to watch.

"The next day was KC. I had called the promoters and had them hold two tickets for me. Again, we were way too early, so we hung out at the club. I think Greg and Tom must have spent five hours playing with their practice amps. I even had a brief conversation with Kira. She remembered me staring at her the night before and St. Louis. I guess she figured she had better talk to me to make sure I wasn't a nut. I think I hid it pretty well.

"The club was stupid small and hot. Gang Green played, too. They actually played last and there was some discussion about whether they could use Flag's PA. Kira was opposed to this but it happened anyway.


"The last time I saw them was in 1986 at Turners Hall in St. Louis. It was in a second floor ball room. The building was over 100 years old and used to be the site of union meetings that my grandfather used to go to. It was hot and loud. Flag was so loud that plaster was falling and dust was everywhere. The show was kind of a drag. You could feel the end was near. I can't imagine any band now ever even coming close to Black Flag. The past was a much different place than now. What we did was wrong. None of us belonged exept with the other outcasts. We were pissed off. That is what is missing today. Punk is supposed to dark and musical. Black Flag is exactly that."

Tim J.
October 1998


"I was born, raised, and lived most of my life in the South Bay of Southern California (Lennox, CA to be exact). Although I went to Lennox High School, I was friends with folks from Hawthorne High. One buddy of mine was Greg Hetson (of Redd Kross, Circle Jerks, Bad Religion, etc...) We used to go over to Keith Morris' house on Imperial Highway in Hawthorne and smoke weed in his bedroom. He had Beatles posters and stuff on his wall. We went to see Queen and stuff like that, but listened to the Ramones and the Sex Pistols. The South Bay scene was just starting out and we all were in awe of the Last. The Nolte Brothers were awesome. Other bands started popping up all around after they started.

"I'll clue you into some of my earliest Black Flag memories: the best one is probably when Keith was their lead singer and Black Flag was set to perform in this free concert that was being staged at Polliwog Park in Manhattan Beach. The free concert was part of a music festival which included all kinds of music (bluegrass, jazz, etc...) Black Flag had put flyers up all over the South Bay which brough all of the budding punks out. You should have seen the extreme look of fright on the faces of all of the parents that had brought their kids and had laid out their blankets for the day. It was precious!!!

"When Black Flag began to play, the slamming started and there was a mini-riot as the parents tried to escape. Styrofoam coolers flying, all that shit! Anyway, the cops came and shut it down, and Morris got either arrested or charged with littering because of all of the flyers that had been placed throughout the city. I think that some lack of help from Ginn, Dukowski, and the rest caused Morris to split the band and start up the Circle Jerks with Hetson.

"I saw Black Flag all over the L.A. region at places like Devonshire Downs, Mi Casita (with Hüsker Dü opening for them in their first California appearance), the Anti-Club, Madam Wongs... I also spent time hanging out at the Church, the house on Felton in Redondo, and stuff like that."

Steve S.
October 1998


"The best one for me was at the friggin TURKEY HATCHERY gig in Hemet, CA. No... thats not a club. It was a real hatchery. My fun was holding one end of a 'security' rope across the 'stage' and slamming fellow idiots back into the pit. I think I even got laid that night."

Dave C.
October 1998


"I had the honor of seeing Black Flag three times in Florida. A Damaged tour show in Miami with Dez where I was too drunk to remember much. It was also the only time I ever stage-dived. More like stage-dropped.

"The second time was in Tampa with Kira & Bill (from the Descendents.) This was the best show I've ever seen. Greg doing ridiculously off-key back-up vocals on Slip It In. The cops showed and said times up... one more song. My War. Godlike.

"The third time... in Tampa again. Greg, Henry and 2 bozos. It sucked major! Rollins was whining his ass off, almost all shitty songs off the last 2 albums. Still, they were the greatest band ever. I'd kill to feel as alive as I did at that second show one more time."

John K.
October 1998

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